Posts by Witness My Fury

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Hello

by lurkernomore in

i thought it was high time to introduce myself (without my name of course).

as my name would suggest i have been reading your intriguing post, thoughts and discussions for some time now.

around 3/4 months to be exact.. i guess to start with it would seem fitting to give a little background on my current situation.. i'm a born-in, but have over the last few years found that through a number of varying occurences, (some of which i may discuss in future posts) that my 'zeal' has gone from regular field service and meetings to no service in over a year and very sporadic meeting attendance.

Witness My Fury

Excellent, keep reading, keep searching and keep questioning.

Better to have questions you can't answer than answers you can't question. Cant remember who said that one sorry....

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Perfect Relationship, He Still Broke Up With Me

by tiff21390 in

last month, my best friend of four years and boyfriend of six months came home from a jehovah's witness convention.

he'd been acting strangely the entire weekend and i knew something was wrong.

i initiated a discussion and he said, "essentially our relationship is wrong and i'm not supposed to be with you.

Witness My Fury

It's a cult. Read up about cults and cult mind control.

https://freedomofmind.com/Info/BITE/bitemodel.php

You saw the cult personality come to the surface, this is the danger in relationships with cult members or ex cult members who have not fully deprogrammed and still believe in it or are susceptible to be reactivated.

Finish the relationship and move on would be the kindest advice to give you.

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Is there Such a Thing as TIme

by givemejustalittlemoretime in

the present moment is real.

however much you may remember the past or anticipate the future, you live in the present.

the next second of your life is the future.

Witness My Fury

OP is a subtly edited version of this and gives no credit...

Scientific American June 2010 - Is Time an Illusion:

As you read this sentence, you probably think that this moment — right now — is
what is happening. The present moment feels special. It is real. However much you
may remember the past or anticipate the future, you live in the present. Of course, the
moment during which you read that sentence is no longer happening. This one is. In
other words, it feels as though time flows, in the sense that the present is constantly
updating itself. We have a deep intuition that the future is open until it becomes
present and that the past is fixed. As time flows, this structure of fixed past, immediate
present and open future gets carried forward in time. This structure is built into our
language, thought and behavior. How we live our lives hangs on it.

Yet as natural as this way of thinking is, you will not find it reflected in science. The
equations of physics do not tell us which events are occurring right now — they are
like a map without the “you are here” symbol. The present moment does not exist in
them, and therefore neither does the flow of time. [Sci]

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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

Witness My Fury

FOG: Fear Obligation Guilt.

It's a cult! Wakey wakey.

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Where Do Visions,Dreams and Prophecy Come From

by givemejustalittlemoretime in

if these things come true and many people have them whether believers or non beleivers, where do they come from.

Witness My Fury

And the proof for any of that is where?

Wishful thinking and confirmation bias are not a good foundation for establishing truth.

Edit to add Syme nailed it.

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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

Witness My Fury

The question you need to ask yourself is: when will I make a stand? When will the circumstances be "right"?

My reaction is that you will never leave until you are ready to stand up and be noticed and not just fall into line with the slightest push.

Grow a pair and man up.

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Does consciousness end with the death of the body

by givemejustalittlemoretime in

apparently, the carvakas in anceint hinduism were materialists and skeptics, arguing that consciousness ends with the death of the body and that therefore we should take pleasure in this life while we possess it and practice compassion toward others.

they also argued that direct observation is the only certain way to know anything, and thus the existence of supernatural forces and realities cannot be established and must be rejected.

Witness My Fury

You are correct, I was sloppy in my wording.

I dared to challenge my beliefs, all of them when approaching 40... I did learn critical thinking and followed the evidence to atheism. It was not a long road to travel, but that's just me.

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Simon, please update my profile picture!

by will-be-apostate in

i've read on another thread you need to delete the cached file of the profile picture so that it can be updated by the gravatar user.

i created a gravatar account, added the email address i use on here and uploaded the an image, but nothing happens.

this was 3 days ago.. could you please solve this problem?.

Witness My Fury

Ah, so this is where all the new avatars came from.....

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Does consciousness end with the death of the body

by givemejustalittlemoretime in

apparently, the carvakas in anceint hinduism were materialists and skeptics, arguing that consciousness ends with the death of the body and that therefore we should take pleasure in this life while we possess it and practice compassion toward others.

they also argued that direct observation is the only certain way to know anything, and thus the existence of supernatural forces and realities cannot be established and must be rejected.

Witness My Fury

LOL, so glad there are some intelligent posters on this board able to cut thru bullshit and poor reasoning.

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Does anyone live by any Bible stuff?

by punkofnice in

this is not meant to be a slag off the bible thread.. i had a question asked me the other day and it was: 'do you live by anything from the bible?'.

i had to think about that one because i was force grown in the filthy, disgusting cult of the paedophile loving watchtower(r).. you know what?

i really don't know if i just naturally am a great bloke or if any 'nice' bits in the bible influenced me......or has western culture been influenced by the bible for good and bad?.

Witness My Fury

It's odd, I was far more dishonest when i was a uber dub bible believing "christian" than I am now as an atheist.

I dont drink, gamble (apart from lotto), fornicate, do any drugs, steal or lie. I like my life uncomplicated and my closet skeleton free. No bible, no god required, it is who i am.